>>>>> "ap" == Alex Pilosov <alex@xxx> writes: ap> <snip> trust me, they exist now for v4, and nobody cares. uh yeah, but the point is the only people remedial enough to want them can't use them because these people have a single dynamic IP. Nobody cares because the people who can run them have better ways to do the same thing. And since each box would eat an IP, I don't have that kind of v4 space to burn, so I wouldn't run them myself even if I didn't dislike them. with v6, this spurned class of device gets a crack at a newer, less-sophisticated, and larger audience. ap> ips will not be global and static. more myths. you will not ap> have a portable and permanently assigned IP address. ap> You cannot have permanent and portable v4 or v6 address. Current jabber servers don't need PI-portable space to run, either. That's what DNS is for. ap> If you want static IP (non-portable) you can do it just as ap> well with v4 as with v6. No real difference. yes good point. Just having static v4 addresses like your ADSL, instead of dynamic, for typical home accounts would permit lots of things we can't do now. but: (1) there's a question, which box gets the static IP? Generally it's some SOHO router. With v6, the box on which gaim is running can have a static global IP. Yes, I know, the IP changes when you change ISP's. but not unexpectedly and not daily/weekly. (2) the hope is, aside from DoCoMo, most ISP's won't bother forcing end systems onto dynamic addresses. It's hard because: (a) it's not working super well to have an address changing ~daily with the stateless autoconfig mechanism. They could maybe set pltime very low, though. (b) because now that the prefix on the wire is changing it'll screw up noticeable things like local file and printer sharing when your prefix changes. There's some support for keeping alive old TCP circuits on a ``deprecated'' prefix if they leave vltime set to something long, but I bet it won't work well. yeah, you're right, IPv6 is only _needed_ for (1). But I started out saying ``here are some reasons big ISP's may want to keep IPv6 out of homes as long as possible.'' (2) is such a reason---if they can't get their dynamic address garbage to work, they might not like giving any kind of static address, even a v6 one. I hadn't considered they might give out dynamic v6 prefixes. I guess that's worth worrying about. -- READ CAREFULLY. By reading this fortune, you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies ("BOGUS AGREEMENTS") that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer.
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