Re: [OCCAID] Proposal for EINTAP

[Michael Nicks <nicksm@ioport.com>]

On 01/07/05 23:29:05 -0500, Miles Nordin wrote:
> >>>>> "tm" == Tom McNeely <tom@cnacs.occaid.org> writes:
> 
>     tm> http://www.occaid.org/proposals/eintap.txt
> 
> dnsspam?!
> 
> It seems odd for an experimental network to have formal disciplinary
> procedures for a behavior that does no harm to others just because
> some people think it's unfashionable or juvenile.  Such procedures
> don't create a climate conducive to experimenting.  In my opinion
> members should be encouraged to do things with no practical value, and
> certainly shouldn't be ``disciplined'' for doing something harmless
> just because many people think it looks dumb.

Why is it odd that an organization would have disciplinary actions for
undesirable behavior/actions? It seems perfectly normal to me, for 
quality control.

> I don't have any so-called ``DNS spam'' in my network right now, but I
> do have one guy that set his IPv6 address to ::dead:beef:dead:beef or
> something.  Next will that be forbidden too because someone thinks
> it's unfashionable or childish, or because ``IPv6 addresses were
> intended as opaque numerals for routing purposes only and were never
> meant to spell things''?

I doubt there were ever be set rules against spelling things with 
interface addresses.

> newsgroups like alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die were tolerated even
> though they actually caused some extra disk seeks on the news server.
> Sysadmins bitched about it, but no reasonable person filtered out
> those groups or tried to ``discipline'' the creators.  By comparison,
> dnsspam is just stupid-looking and harmless.

OCCAID is an educational network, but it does have standards. DNS Spam 
looks bad over all for the organization because it reflects on part of 
the userbase the organization is associated with, kiddies.

> The strict prohibition and dispute procedure for so-called DNS spam
> strikes me as a pet vendetta more ridiculous than the practice it was
> meant to stop.  I'm sorry if I'm stepping on someone's toes here, but
> I acutally find the attitude pretty disturbing and dangerous.  And
> this opinion is coming from someone who agrees long domain names that
> spell things are stupid and who doesn't do it.

If you aren't doing it, what you do you have to worry about? I am in 
favor of this because I do not want to see OCCAID becoming popular with 
irc kids because of lax dns spam policies.

-Michael

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